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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, sorry it took so long to get back to this question, it got lost in the cue.

In 1968, changes were made to the delegate selection process. These changes came about as an effort to take away from the party &#039;elders&#039; the chance to pick delegates to the convention secretly. The rules changed to having delegates sent to the Democratic National Convention in proportion to each state&#039;s population. These changes happened under the recommendations of the McGovern-Fraser Commission&#039;s report in the same year.

However, these changes were implemented when few states had primary elections, and when most were having caucuses, which was where the delegates were being secretly picked. As a result of the change, when the DNC thought that caucuses would continue to be the mainstay of electing, a lot of states went over to primary elections. 

An unintended consequence of this change from caucuses to primaries was that the state&#039;s population quickly gained more control in the nominating process than the party &#039;elders&#039;. After some bad tickets were produced as a result of the majority of primary votes (like Jimmy Carter and, ironically enough, George McGovern) Governor of North Carolina Jim Hunt proposed the superdelegate idea that quickly came to fruition. Under Hunt&#039;s plan, 30% of all delegates at the DNC would be superdelegates. By 1984, when the plan was implemented, it was 14%. Now, it&#039;s 20%.

Now, when 1984 came about and the superdelegates were implemented, it made for good timing. Walter Mondale only beat out Gary Hart by a few delegates due to the voting, and would have made for an intense floor fight at the DNC, except for the fact that he won all the superdelegates. 

In this situation, it saved face, prevented a long and drawn-out DNC, had the party preferred delegate nominated, and ended up going with the candidate who had the most pledged delegates on their side. 

So, I would say that the superdelegates were indeed created to give the superdelegates *a* say and not *the* say, as you rightly pointed out. We have never come to a junction where there is a nominee who is clearly the favourite among voters, in terms of votes and pledged delegates, and the superdelegates have over-turned that decision. If that were to occur, then that would be a misinterpretation and skewing of the superdelegate&#039;s role. They are to ensure that the &#039;best&#039; candidate gets onto the ticket (in terms of the nomination process - most votes, most delegates, etc.), and to avoid a messing and party-disgracing floor fight at the DNC.

Hope that answers your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, sorry it took so long to get back to this question, it got lost in the cue.</p>
<p>In 1968, changes were made to the delegate selection process. These changes came about as an effort to take away from the party &#8216;elders&#8217; the chance to pick delegates to the convention secretly. The rules changed to having delegates sent to the Democratic National Convention in proportion to each state&#8217;s population. These changes happened under the recommendations of the McGovern-Fraser Commission&#8217;s report in the same year.</p>
<p>However, these changes were implemented when few states had primary elections, and when most were having caucuses, which was where the delegates were being secretly picked. As a result of the change, when the DNC thought that caucuses would continue to be the mainstay of electing, a lot of states went over to primary elections. </p>
<p>An unintended consequence of this change from caucuses to primaries was that the state&#8217;s population quickly gained more control in the nominating process than the party &#8216;elders&#8217;. After some bad tickets were produced as a result of the majority of primary votes (like Jimmy Carter and, ironically enough, George McGovern) Governor of North Carolina Jim Hunt proposed the superdelegate idea that quickly came to fruition. Under Hunt&#8217;s plan, 30% of all delegates at the DNC would be superdelegates. By 1984, when the plan was implemented, it was 14%. Now, it&#8217;s 20%.</p>
<p>Now, when 1984 came about and the superdelegates were implemented, it made for good timing. Walter Mondale only beat out Gary Hart by a few delegates due to the voting, and would have made for an intense floor fight at the DNC, except for the fact that he won all the superdelegates. </p>
<p>In this situation, it saved face, prevented a long and drawn-out DNC, had the party preferred delegate nominated, and ended up going with the candidate who had the most pledged delegates on their side. </p>
<p>So, I would say that the superdelegates were indeed created to give the superdelegates *a* say and not *the* say, as you rightly pointed out. We have never come to a junction where there is a nominee who is clearly the favourite among voters, in terms of votes and pledged delegates, and the superdelegates have over-turned that decision. If that were to occur, then that would be a misinterpretation and skewing of the superdelegate&#8217;s role. They are to ensure that the &#8216;best&#8217; candidate gets onto the ticket (in terms of the nomination process &#8211; most votes, most delegates, etc.), and to avoid a messing and party-disgracing floor fight at the DNC.</p>
<p>Hope that answers your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda May</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: someone told me recently that the entire reason for Superdelegates was to decide the nomination when there was a &quot;tie&quot; or something close to it like we are currently esperiencing.  

I disagreed with that explanation, saying that it may turn out that way, but that wasn&#039;t the original intent.  It was to give all those folks who you mentioned a &quot;say&quot; in the process, but not necessarily &quot;the&quot; say.  Could you clairfy the original intent of the Superdelegate mechanism? 

Please explain and elaborate more fully.  thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: someone told me recently that the entire reason for Superdelegates was to decide the nomination when there was a &#8220;tie&#8221; or something close to it like we are currently esperiencing.  </p>
<p>I disagreed with that explanation, saying that it may turn out that way, but that wasn&#8217;t the original intent.  It was to give all those folks who you mentioned a &#8220;say&#8221; in the process, but not necessarily &#8220;the&#8221; say.  Could you clairfy the original intent of the Superdelegate mechanism? </p>
<p>Please explain and elaborate more fully.  thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Delegates and distribution explains &#171; Deus Lo Vult</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1651</link>
		<dc:creator>Delegates and distribution explains &#171; Deus Lo Vult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] finally, we come to the fourth group of delegates: The superdelegates. I&#8217;ve done a lengthy explanation of them before. For Pennsylvania, there are 29 superdelegates: 14 Democratic National Committee members, 12 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] finally, we come to the fourth group of delegates: The superdelegates. I&#8217;ve done a lengthy explanation of them before. For Pennsylvania, there are 29 superdelegates: 14 Democratic National Committee members, 12 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog stats for 11 March, 2008 &#171; Deus Lo Vult</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog stats for 11 March, 2008 &#171; Deus Lo Vult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] visits at 507. My biggest day was February 6 (Super Tuesday in the U.S.) with 520. On that day, my Superdelegates post received 379 views. It looks as though Wyoming - results, Mississippi - polls is going to beat [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] visits at 507. My biggest day was February 6 (Super Tuesday in the U.S.) with 520. On that day, my Superdelegates post received 379 views. It looks as though Wyoming &#8211; results, Mississippi &#8211; polls is going to beat [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that someone else found the information interesting Jess. And I&#039;m also pleased that someone else sees the process as mainly about contacts, and who knows who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that someone else found the information interesting Jess. And I&#8217;m also pleased that someone else sees the process as mainly about contacts, and who knows who.</p>
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		<title>By: A good omen? &#171; Deus Lo Vult</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>A good omen? &#171; Deus Lo Vult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the past two days with all my blogging about Texas and Ohio, and primary-related posts (like my superdelegates post). I&#8217;ll certainly try to keep up the trend, but I don&#8217;t expect to get 5,000 views for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the past two days with all my blogging about Texas and Ohio, and primary-related posts (like my superdelegates post). I&#8217;ll certainly try to keep up the trend, but I don&#8217;t expect to get 5,000 views for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I deeply appreciate the information you have written. It all makes better sense now. The world is certainly &quot;ALL&quot; about contacts :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deeply appreciate the information you have written. It all makes better sense now. The world is certainly &#8220;ALL&#8221; about contacts <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: February stats &#171; Deus Lo Vult</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1363</link>
		<dc:creator>February stats &#171; Deus Lo Vult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Superdelegates was the most popular post by far - getting a record amount of hits on February 6. All my American politics posts garnered a lot of views in and around there, but this one got the most. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Superdelegates was the most popular post by far &#8211; getting a record amount of hits on February 6. All my American politics posts garnered a lot of views in and around there, but this one got the most. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog stats for the week &#171; Deus Lo Vult</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog stats for the week &#171; Deus Lo Vult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] individual posts, for the 7 days we had 235 visits for Superdelegates and 147 for Obama news - Endorsements, money, debate, and the rest various numbers under 50. This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] individual posts, for the 7 days we had 235 visits for Superdelegates and 147 for Obama news &#8211; Endorsements, money, debate, and the rest various numbers under 50. This [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://deuslovult.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/superdelegates/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they only count for 1/5th of all delegates needed to be nominated. In any other election, it hasn&#039;t been close enough for the superdelegates to decide. However, with things as they stand now, the superdelegates seem to be content with going to the candidate who wins the majority of pledged delegates. That means, the candidate who wins more delegates based on your vote, and people like you. Thus, you vote does count, and the votes are even more important at the moment. And the effort to vote is at an unprecedented high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they only count for 1/5th of all delegates needed to be nominated. In any other election, it hasn&#8217;t been close enough for the superdelegates to decide. However, with things as they stand now, the superdelegates seem to be content with going to the candidate who wins the majority of pledged delegates. That means, the candidate who wins more delegates based on your vote, and people like you. Thus, you vote does count, and the votes are even more important at the moment. And the effort to vote is at an unprecedented high.</p>
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